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THE AMA IS RUNNING MOTOCROSS INTO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
yamah177
Addict | Posts: 2306 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 06/19/07
11:45 AM

several complaints were heard by the pros about the Budds Creek track this year. Some of the moans included: Too many rocks, deteriorating soil, not technical enough, over-watered, too short, etc. were just a few of the comments made. Ricky Carmichael, however, was by far the most vocal. When asked about the track in the press conference, RC expressed his dislike of the course, calling it an "embarrassment" to the U.S. motocross community. "The tracks are short, there's no doubt about it," said Carmichael. "There's only one line around the entire track, too. The dirt keeps going away and deteriorating, and they haven't put any dirt back into it; they should be ashamed of themselves. What scares me about this place in particular is that I don’t know how many more chances we are going to have to host the Motocross of Nations. I'm embarrassed for it. And they wonder why people don't wanna' ride outdoors. It's just sad for the sport and it confirms why I'm not racing next year." Other riders, like Ryan Villopoto, seemed to like the course, saying on the podium "I really like the track here, it suits me well."

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http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=1BCAE95943874D2C8D487E372D037F14  


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2006 RM250
Tragedy and hardship are the forge that produce men of steel

 
XXSUPERHEROXX
Guru | Posts: 1388 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 06/19/07
01:24 PM

I stoped racing AMA harescrambles in 2002 because I did not like how they were run. I did not even bother to nenew my membership this year because I dont race any of their events.the last time I did buy a membership was dew to the fact my buddies wanted to ride at a AMA sectioned trak and I was forced to become a member or sit by the truck all day.

The AMA is dragging down the whole dirtbiking sport.  


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MaddogR6 MaddogR6
User | Posts: 99 | Joined: 06/06
Posted: 06/19/07
01:54 PM

Ricky NEVER has anything good to say about tracks whether its supercross or outdoors. He criticizes so much that he's lost a litte credit in my book when it somes to track comments. He's always the first one to complain about lappers too. If it were up to him it would be a head to head race with Bubba every weekend by themselves. He's so far above everyone else that he has no clue what it's like for the rest of the racers.    


 
pin_it
Guru | Posts: 1701 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 06/19/07
02:29 PM

Ricky is right, the 450's are too powerful, and they do tear the crap out of the coarses.

Im all for 250f and 350f classes!  


 
twostrokemilitia.
User | Posts: 152 | Joined: 02/07
Posted: 06/19/07
03:12 PM

I think the best way to go would be for 200cc and 350cc classes. That way the tracks wouldn't be shredded by the second moto and 2 strokes would have a chance and the riders could have more variety. I think a 125 vs 200 and 250 vs 350 would be a good match up power-wise. If they did that then races would be fun to watch again.  


 
pin_it
Guru | Posts: 1701 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 06/19/07
04:27 PM

donato:
I think the best way to go would be for 200cc and 350cc classes. That way the tracks wouldn't be shredded by the second moto and 2 strokes would have a chance and the riders could have more variety. I think a 125 vs 200 and 250 vs 350 would be a good match up power-wise. If they did that then races would be fun to watch again.

I think they already are fun to watch...  


 
yamah177
Addict | Posts: 2306 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 06/19/07
05:18 PM

i dont get the whole 350 debate. sure they may be fun to ride, but ryan villopoto and ben townley often have lap times fast enough to place in the top five against the 450 riders. this makes no sense. its obvious the tracks are too fast if 250F's are running times second only to ricky and bubba. maddog, did you watch the race on TV. Ricky was right on. The track had oneline around the whole way, the insides were lacking traction, it was too fast, the lap times were too short. if you watched the race you would understand. that track sucked. i would hate to race that track. Ricky does criticize a lot, but he has been arouned a while and he knows what motocross really is. Motocross is Glen Helen(unless the AMA smooths it out). Motocross is like hangtown was. Motocross is like it was last year. Budds Creek and Southwick were a joke. Sure, southwick may have been the roughest of this year, but its nothing compared to last year. Come on guys, this is motocross, its supposed to be rough. anyone who thinks motocross should be smooth probably is a poser who turns hot laps in the backyard on his TTR125. the AMA sucks. Ricky is right about budds creek, and ben townley is right about southwick. Well, i hope the real sport survives, instead of the nationals becoming overblown supercrss tracks.  


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2006 RM250
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twostrokemilitia.
User | Posts: 152 | Joined: 02/07
Posted: 06/19/07
07:31 PM

Pin_it, they are fun to watch now, but they would be better just to see guys going all-out on the 2 strokes and see guys battling it out with the guys on the thumpers. To see the two different riding styles for different riders going at it would be awesome. I don't know about you guys but our track still has about 35 percent two-strokes in every class, and some of the fastest guys are on two strokes and four strokes. When you see them fighting for the lead, it's really something incredible to watch, you really get into it. Just my 2 cents.  


 
yamah177
Addict | Posts: 2306 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 06/19/07
08:30 PM

it would be cool to see both 2 and 4 going at it. 2's would be better in some places, while the 4's better in others. but that still dosnt make up for crappy tracks. the AMA is full of stupid ideas.  


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2006 RM250
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twostrokemilitia.
User | Posts: 152 | Joined: 02/07
Posted: 06/19/07
09:31 PM

I know... they really don't have their **** together. They have classes with machines so powerful that they totally shred up a track within one moto and then they don't have the descency to maintain it and keep it good for the next moto's. At least keep the track good if you're allowing such powerful bikes to race, and if you don't then make them less powerful. Plain and simple.  


 
yamah177
Addict | Posts: 2306 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 06/19/07
10:02 PM

thats the point. its good that they shred the track. they need to be rougher if anything. with the suspension working so well these days and the handling getting better every year, the tracks need to be more challenging if anything. the AMA smooths the tracks between first and 2nd motos. that is lame. this is motocross and to keep the track good for the next moto is to leave it rough. now, there is a fine line between dangerous and rough. rough is good. dangerous is untolerable. i've never seen a motocross so rough it was dangerous. the tracks need to be rough and have a lot of lines. otherwise, they are just supercross with hills, some small whoops scattered about, heat, and longer races. motocross has a rep as a tough sport and the ama is ruining it.  


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2006 RM250
Tragedy and hardship are the forge that produce men of steel

 
twostrokemilitia.
User | Posts: 152 | Joined: 02/07
Posted: 06/19/07
10:13 PM

Yes, but I watched the raced today and that was getting dangerous. A couple riders including Bubba were wobbling all over the place because of the sand being so thick and dry. I don't like the way the AMA is dealing with the tracks this year... someone's going to get hurt.  


 
DLHamblin
Moderator | Posts: 1914 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 06/20/07
04:36 AM

Gee, we could go back to 125 and 250 2-strokes...    


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(2008 YZ 125 son)

 
yamah177
Addict | Posts: 2306 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 06/20/07
08:29 AM

that wouldnt slow things down. the ama is too dumb to see that its not the bikes that are too fast, its the track. how is it that ryan villopotos best time in the 2nd moto was 2 seconds faster than chad reeds. that means if ryan got a top ten start, he would probably take third right behind ricky and bubba. its the track, not the bike. its the AMA's dumb idea to make the tracks better suited to 4-strokes. its all bogus and they need to make them rough as heck. thats only way to go for professional riders. come on, they are professionals arent they?  


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2006 RM250
Tragedy and hardship are the forge that produce men of steel

 
MaddogR6 MaddogR6
User | Posts: 99 | Joined: 06/06
Posted: 06/20/07
08:42 AM

I don't get to see any of the races so maybe you would know better on how one lined it was. I did notice in the pictures though that there weren't any inside ruts, looked to be mostly sweeping berms. The comment was made that they turned into a Euro track for the MXDN so maybe that's the culprit?  


 
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