Motocross Forum

that is alwesome but 4 strokes are crap. i dont want one and i cant afford it if it blows up. and why get a 250f when i can get a 250 two stroke and race it against a 250f in the new ama rules.  
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Ride 2 strokes, buy 2 strokes, save the 2 stroke.

1998 cr125
2002 cr80

just grab yourself a nice yz250  
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2004 Honda CRF250X

2003 Kawasaki KX100

2001 Honda XR100R

2004 KTM 125EXC

More power does not always mean the rider will go faster.  He might not be comforitable riding a bull like a 250 2 stroke yet.  The added power can wear you down quicker, and be harder to control.  I see plenty of guys still hauling the mail on 125s right past others on faster bikes, but they just don't use them to the full potential.  I'll admit that I never use all my bikes power on a track.  I don't ride a 125 because I'm too heavy for it to pull me up hills all day.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

PW 50 !!!!. enough said  

I'm curious which turns faster lap times on a 250:  the 4 stroke or the 2 stroke.  That would be with the same rider.  I always thought that a 2 stroke made more power but the 4 stroke is smoother.  Motocross Action, in a recent article, proved that in the open class, a 4 stroke is much faster compared to a 500cc 2 stroke in lap times with the same rider.  Could it be that it would depend on the track, too?  
2006 YZ450
2000 YZ250
sons:
2005 CR85
2008 TTR110
2001 KX65
1996 CR80

Track conditions, the riders conditioning, and what he is used to riding all factor into the lap times.  In most of these laptime tests comaping the three bikes they are all usually just a second or so off of each other betwenn laps.  Thats another big reason why I still use the much cheaper 2 stroke.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

The latest DR has an interesting article where they run some comparisons on the 250F, 250 2-stroke and a 450F.

A lot boils down to the rider.  Its an interesting article.  The lap times weren't all that different among the riders and bikes.  
Dave H 2006 YZ250
(2008 YZ 125 son)

well look at brock lesner he crushed those guys at the x game and they were on 450 and he was on a 250  
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Ride 2 strokes, buy 2 strokes, save the 2 stroke.

1998 cr125
2002 cr80

guys are still really competitive on 250 2t against the 450's. 125 2t vs 250f you have to have alot of skills to be truly competitive.  
-1998 cr125
2 stroke 4 life

I no this is a really old post but i just had to add that.  
-1998 cr125
2 stroke 4 life

and i meant broc hepler. i dont know where i got lesner from.

and to add to this that the article in DR. said that the 250t was the best motocross bike. and they couldnt decide which was better a 250f big bored to 290 or a 450f. they said the 450 had a bunch of power but had no handling. the 290f handled really good like a 250f but had more power then the 250f. so the 250f came in last.

and the lap times were only seconds apart and it did matter a lot on the rider and track.  
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Ride 2 strokes, buy 2 strokes, save the 2 stroke.

1998 cr125
2002 cr80