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Listen to Bill!

And for the record, if you are buying used then I DEFINITELY endorse the YZ250 as top option.... even if the topend is toast, you can make it like new for $150 and it's easy as pie to maintain.  
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its a yz250f 4 stroke arent the top ends expensive on those  
06 Yamaha YZ 250

4 strokes aint nothin but problems

a detuned bike meaning its crap or wat ..??? is there any way i can make it better wat are some things i can do to up the performance on the WR250f  
06 Yamaha YZ 250

4 strokes aint nothin but problems

i suggest perhaps going to a dealer, or going to different individual sellers and trying out different bikes. You decide on what YOU want, I have owned both, 2 and 4. and i finally settled on a 2. but thats just me. you have to make these decisions on what you feel is right. i'd try dealers, they are insured and if you dump it you dont have to buy it lol (ussually)    
PEACE GUYS ITS BEEN A BLAST!!!!! ~patrick

I recommend any 2 stroke MX bike.  Not just the YZs.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

the skipper is talking about the YZ250 2 stroke  
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05 KTM 125 SX

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The topend on a 250F (four stroke) is just a little more expensive than the topend on a 2-stroke.  However, if a 4-stroke blows a motor, it costs thousands to rebuild, whereas a 2-stroke costs hundreds.

By detuned, we mean the bike is engineered to produce less power - which relates to longer life and extended service intervals. If you buy a detuned bike - like a WR250F, and 'tune it up' to make more power, then you are defeating the purpose, as your efforts will result in a bike that requires more maintenance - which is exactly what you were trying to avoid!  
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kzakastro:
a detuned bike meaning its crap or wat ..??? is there any way i can make it better wat are some things i can do to up the performance on the WR250f

No! Not crap.  Race engines are very high strung.  That is why they need maint. more often.  When I say detuned I mean the engine is not set up to the max.  It is still a good engine, and the smoother mellower power is very welcome on the snotty slippery trails, and in the tight trees.  It will be easier to handle, and it won't wear you out letting you ride it for longer periods between rests.  The WR comes with a lot of built in hopups.  Just a few canges and removals opens up the engine.  A CRFX is just as good and doesn't require the changes.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

I like the way you think Skipper.  BNow I just need to type faster.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

ok i understand now now the question is 2004 WR250f or 2004 CRF250x ..?? and if i do take the yamaha u said it comes with a lot of built in HOPups ...??? wat does that mean are u saying the honda is the better choice ..?  
06 Yamaha YZ 250

4 strokes aint nothin but problems

Both are great trail bikes.  The WR comes restricted in it's stock form.  A rev limiter, restrictive exhaust, choked aibox, throttle stop, and lean jetting can be fixed cheaply or for free.  Then the bike can keep pace with the CRFX.  Why are you stuck on the '04 models?  Newr ones can be had for a little more money and if the bike is in better condition the extra money can save you in the long run.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R

Where is all this maintance comming from. My 4 banger never needs anything. Change the oil every 4 hours and a new air filter once a day and she keeps on going. To tell the truth Iv only done the valves 2 times in my 450 and I have over 220 hours now. I did the top end because I wanted a high compression piston. That was the only reason. Even 4 stroke motocross bikes last forever. I went 14 months without doing a valve job on my bike. I bought it in 06 while the 07 were just barely comming out. Trust me 4 stroke mx bikes last a lifetime if you do the oil and air filter.  
'Forgive me Lord for I have sinned; hit a 4th gear jump 5th gear pinned'

Real Men Ride Four Strokes-Always Have.

I paid 140 bucks for my Wiseco 13:5:1 full piston setup. Rings, circlip, wristpin everything. 4 strokes are not expensive.  
'Forgive me Lord for I have sinned; hit a 4th gear jump 5th gear pinned'

Real Men Ride Four Strokes-Always Have.

im not stuck on the 04 models i was just lookin at one at the moment wat year do u reccomend and wat bike honda or yamaha wat do u thin i should do  
06 Yamaha YZ 250

4 strokes aint nothin but problems

Kzakstro,
Newer the better.

Yama97
450s are lasting a lot longer because only 2 people on this earth can push them like a 250.  I bet you are hardly ever reving your bike past halfway.  Kepping the bike in the low revs will help it last longer.  While everyone else can easily find the limits of a 250 fourbanger.

Those 2 people have the initials RC and JS.  

Bill H. 2000 CR250R