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Need help decieding between 2-stroke and 4-stroke

 
mr300c mr300c
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/20/08
11:05 AM

Hi there, im very new to dirt bike riding, iv ridden about 10 times(02 kx 125), and im about to buy my first bike but im unsure if i should buy a 250 2-stroke or a 240 4-stroke. I will be doing 80% of my riding in the bush, e.g (4x4 tracks, muddy, rocky place) All recreational riding.I just don't want to buy a 2-stroke and be having difficulty getting up hills and getting thrown off on rocky surfaces, i'm not sure if its 2-strokes or its just my riding skills, i also dont want to buy a 4-stroke and get bored with it as it doesn't give me the thrill like a 2-stroke. Is it maybe because when i've been riding its been on a 125 2-stroke and need a 250 2-stroke which has more tourque down low to get me up the rocky terrain, or is it that a 4-stroke are just easier to ride in those terrains (or will i get better with a 2-stroke in time). Please help me,
Thanks  

 
elko6 elko6
Addict | Posts: 2087 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 07/20/08
11:08 AM

i think you should get a 125 2 sroke. you just need practice on it. 2 strokes arent the easiest bikes to ride and it will take a couple time to really understand the power. go fast up the hill. like 2nd gear pinned and you will make it. that is what i mean you just need practice.  
1998 cr125
2002 cr80

 
mr300c mr300c
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/20/08
11:16 AM

thanks for your  opinion, its just i hear that people say get a 4 stroke there easier to ride, then i hear is that you need a 250 2-stroke as its got low down power making it easier in rough terrain.
any more opinions,
thanks in advance  

 
elko6 elko6
Addict | Posts: 2087 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 07/20/08
11:26 AM

well with a 4 stroke it is easier to ride but i think they are boring to ride. but also dont forget they have more maintence with valves and that kind of stuff and they cost more to maintian and they cost more to get fixed. a 250 2 stroke bike is very powerful and isnt a good bike for a beginner.  
1998 cr125
2002 cr80

 
yz125bear yz125bear
New User | Posts: 40 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/20/08
11:36 AM

Elko is right. 2 strokes just really take a lot of practice, especially on hill climbs. 4 strokes can get boring, but I just rejetted my WR250F with a YZ jet kit. It feels like a different bike all together. I'm no expert by any means but it is something to consider. I'm a small person though so I feel more comfortable on my YZ125. If you have friends with bikes maybe you should go for some test rides and see what you feel most comfortable on.  
***2000 YZ125
**2006 WR250F
*1970 Honda Trail 70

 
elko6 elko6
Addict | Posts: 2087 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 07/20/08
12:07 PM

well with a 4 stroke it is easier to ride but i think they are boring to ride. but also dont forget they have more maintence with valves and that kind of stuff and they cost more to maintian and they cost more to get fixed. a 250 2 stroke bike is very powerful and isnt a good bike for a beginner.  
1998 cr125
2002 cr80

 
2rideagain 2rideagain
User | Posts: 156 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 07/20/08
01:25 PM

If you are talking about climbing really steep hills then its much easier to do with a 4 cycle. I shouldn't really say easier but going up steep inclines on a 2 cycle can only be done 1 way. Nail the throttle all the way and don't let off at all otherwise you kill the engine and have to fall over or learn to ride backwards.    
--- 1994 CR80R ---

 
brytonhill brytonhill
User | Posts: 143 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/23/08
02:14 PM

Maybe you should get a 450 4 stroke. It will have more power than a 250 4 stroke but will be easier to ride than a 250 2 stroke.  
1998 KTM 200 EXC
1996 KX250
1993 XR100r
NORTH CENTRAL H.S. FOOTBALL FOR LIFE! GO INDIANS!!!!!

 
kzakastro kzakastro
Enthusiast | Posts: 286 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/24/08
02:31 AM

hey its all up to u but i prefer the 2 strokes im a beginner and i jhust got a 06 yz 250 thing hauls and its sweet 4 strokes need alot of maintence valves and all that other stuff rebuild will cost u a ton i know its on every 4 stroke owners mind that one day they are gona have to cough up alot of cash for that rebuild 2 stroke 250 will be nice power just test out a few rides see wat u like test a 4 banger and a 2 and see wat u feel most comftrable with  
06 Yamaha YZ 250

4 strokes aint nothin but problems

 
Wombat_chris Wombat_chris
User | Posts: 59 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/24/08
03:14 AM

hey if u stop half way up a hill on a 2 stroke u dont always have to fall over or ride backwards
u can just turn the bike around and ride it to the bottom and it aint that hard
then just try again  
1995 CR80

 
chud chud
Addict | Posts: 2112 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 07/24/08
03:21 AM

From what I have read, the KTM exc models, are as close as you can get, to having the best of both worlds.  

 
Honda250rider Honda250rider
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 07/24/08
06:22 AM

I aggree with chud on this one  
2004 Honda CRF250X

2003 Kawasaki KX100

2001 Honda XR100R

2004 KTM 125EXC

 
2rideagain 2rideagain
User | Posts: 156 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 07/25/08
12:49 PM

Wombat_chris:
hey if u stop half way up a hill on a 2 stroke u dont always have to fall over or ride backwards
u can just turn the bike around and ride it to the bottom and it aint that hard
then just try again


Actually the riding backwards comment was a j/k    but I was talking about a steep incline where you kill the engine if you let off the throttle. I guess you'd have to see some of the hills i've climbed.  
--- 1994 CR80R ---