Dirt Bike Riding Techniques Forum

hey, i have no clue why, but i am way faster this year than last year, coming off of a 5 month break. whooo. last year i was like those kids that are careful, never take any risks, and are afraid to get hurt so they go really slow. this year i am completly different, im aggressive, so what if i fall, i gotta go faster type of guy.

also, last year, when i was going slow, i really stuggled with suspension set up. the rear was always good even if it was too soft or hard which i experimented with often. te forks are what really bargled me. but this year, i am going fast, and when you are going fast, the engine feels a bit faster(because i am revving it being aggressive) also when you go fast, the suspension feels a heck of a lot better. i have no idea how i go through turns. i just come in on the front only, both, the rear only, or whatever feels right, then i put my foot out about as high as the radiator shroud, and then i just go. i dont know how i am doing it. but it is WAY faster than last year. i have been riding 4 times this year now, and afer the 1st and 2nd time out i stiffened my shock. the shock is just so good stock it didnt feel bad soft. but when i stiffened it up, i could turn a lot better. my forks feel somewhat stiff and somewhat oft at different times. this makes a huge difference in handling. i also have a new front tire, and will soon try out a Dunlop D952. if i dont like that then i will stick with maxxis or michelins from now on. man, it feels great to be kinda fast when you have spent the other 3 years of your dirtbike life really really slow.  
2005 YZ250F
2006 RM250
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i have never been on a motorcross track before cause my dad wont let me race motorcross but from the sounds of it it sounds like your turning the front wheel just a lil to much to make it push into  the corner. im not sure  if the motocross guys have stabalizers  on their dirtbikes but that could help im not sure  on that but  i think it would. When im out riding  and i want to take a turn fast i lean the bike into it and throttle it hard. also what i think might be the problem is your not moving the bike with your legs
i know you can move the bike around with your legs like slid the bike a lil but if its a bigger bike its gonna be alot more challenging.but  i would try turning the wheel less and throttling it harder to get the back whell to come around for ya.  

Most MX bikes do not have stabalizers, but I tell you what they do have...Factory suspension.

Having the proper settings will do amazing things to your cornering prowess.

What you speak of as getting the back end out and steering less is called turning with the rear wheel. Ricky Carmichael does this and has proved to be verry efficient, I mean look at him. But things are different when you are on a 450 vs. a 250f.

When I rode the RM-Z250 I noticed this; I could rail, rail and rail harder and stear while pushing hard. On my 450 I can push hard, but in tight corners I can't really rail, it wants to carry its weight on the front end and tuck on me. I have to use some brake to get the rear sideways and then throttle out. I was amazed at the difference. Now, I am nowhere near the rider of Ricky, but I would say I am good in corners.

All you have to do is: Proper suspension sag and set-up, correct posture-up almost on the tank, and correct entrance speed and braking (this takes aloooot or practice, and then proper throttle and clutch control on exit. You really have to be careful not to get on the gas to early though, get halfway turned before getting on the gas hard.  

2009 YZ250F Long Haul

Use both brakes! When ur coming into the turn lean back to reduce any bumps. As soon as you get to the pivot point of the turn throw your weight forward, pretty much sitting on the gas tank. Put ur inside foot up by the front tire. and GAS IT!  

I approach tight corners in the attack position slide my weight forward as I enter coast thru the apex always looking ahead past the apex of the turn. Prefer the inside line as it helps with balance, using more rear than front brake than I flick the clutch on exit and either foot plant or barely stick out my foot for balance but not dragging and than blast out of it hopefully throwing enough roost to keep my buddie off my *@!!$!  
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great job bringing up an ancient post guys. but i guess its a worthy post. very important  
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thanks to Woods.

and yes, i used to be ride4life.

Wow im in a time warp. Is this what it's come to?  
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Ive only been riding for a little less than two years, but im catchin on FAST! Not bragging but im beating people that have been ridint theyre whole life. Corners are approached differently depending on the type of corner. So what i do in flat corners (and what ive read about) is get on both brakes before the turn. Dont brake too early orelse you lose speed. use only one finger on the front brake to prevent washing out. get your body foward on teh bike, near the gas tank. get your inside leg up not only for balance but to add just a little more weight to the front end for traction. When you start to lean weight the ouside peg. be sure to look pretty far ahead, your body folows where you look. once you reach the apex of the turn you want to slowly roll on the throttle. One mistake people make is pinning the throttle and the rear end washes out. Like i said before there are diffent stratagies for different turns, but what i just listed is important for almost all turns. In berms, u want to stand until the apex of the turn, and then sit down foward on the bike, weight the outside peg, and looking foward. And that advice came from Carmicheal so its gotta work.  

YZ250Man:
<P>Can anyone tell me the strategy of those tricky corners. i dont go in on the rear brake anymore. but i fear the front end pushing should i just keep leaning? What do you guys know?</P>
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front end push is when you arnt up on the tank and forcing the tire to pick a line. i race at pro speeds so i usaully stand up and right in the beginning of the corner i let the bike go full boar while sitting on the tank and lean like i want to fall off. on certain berms i can almost drag the handlebars and feels like the coolest thing ever. it just takes time.  
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just soften ur suspition and cant be afraid  
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cant be afriad  
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