Dirt Rider 24 Hour Torture Test build

ok people I said it before Ill say it again we need a winner this time not a piece of junk that we threw  after market parts at just because it would be cool to see if it worked or not!
I say we go KTM and we build it to be reliable I’m a die hard 2 stroke racer so My vote’s for a 300 EXC-W KTM built for harescramble racing! LOL same as last time and this time lets be the first to pick it so them jokers at KTMTALK dont bet us to it!

I'm all for the KTM 300.  even though I ride a Honda.  Everyone I know that has a KTM loves them.  I don't know about their reliability, but its a two stroke so its got to be good.  Lets go with a two stroke just to help keep them alive.

opps! i forgot this was here for the internet bikes. and i posted a thread in general towards the building of the bike. im gonna go delete it and post my opinoin later. lol. sorry hero.

ok, so theres gonna be a new internet bike. what kind of bike do we use? last time we used a yamaha YZ250 bored out to a 28...........5 i think. my personal opinoin is that we use KTM because they are (in my opinion) on top of it al in the off road division. i believe with their "ready to race" attitude and their born to be tough backround we  could do some serious damage.

"wich bike" you say? i think we should use the 250 EXC-F-W. with the same motor as the SX that bike is gonna be bad. we all know that the bike just plain out screams. and this year its even better! with some suspension changes the bike will be amazing! by the time it comes out we should have enough time to put every thing together.

or i just thought of a crazy idea. its kinda stupid but cool. why dont we take the frame from a 250F and drop a 450 motor in it? or take a frame  from a 85cc or 105cc or 150cc cut and weld it to fit a 250F motor in there?

a custom build would be cool but im gonna stick with my 250 EXCF. i understand what you guys are trying to do for the stroker and i think its great but our best option would be to go with a four stroke due to popular demand. (yes most racers use thumpers)

We are building a bike to withstand the 24 hour torture test not to race motocross.  go with the 300 EXC-W.

Now we have to think about this people. This bikes going to be rode hard by multiple riders with different ride habits through some of the roughest terrain that you have ever imagined.
What we do not want to do is undermined the engines cylinder walls by boring it out. The bikes going to be running 24 hours strait. We do not want to start exchanging engines from bikes built with frames to handle the torque of the bigger bore to frames that well twist and or break welds in the 23rd hour of the test.

We also have to take in to account that the test is going to be a 24 hour torture test on the riders! You four stroke enthusiasts have to realize that the two cycles bikes are liter the more we hold down the weight the easier its going to be on the riders. The easier it is on the rider the less they well become fatigued and make mistakes resulting in crashes. What we want in skid plates, hand guards, larger cooling systems, better exhaust systems, we need parts to aid the bike in its mission to make it to the finish line intact!

I couldn't agree more.  Simple mods that only make the bike more durable are at that it needs.  We are not building the internet bike we are building a 24 hour torture test bike.

Super is dead on. As a veteran of several 24 hour events I know what the riders put these bikes through. We shouldn't build a bike to test out some company's engine mods. Chances are, they'll be at the event, as well, with a bike better suited for it. We need to pick a reliable bike and mod it as we would our own with an eye on making it as bulletproof as possible, and as comfortable and good handling as it can be. While we might like insane amounts of torque and horsepower, they don't necessarily translate into a bike that is fun or even easy to ride for hours at a time non-stop. We also need to consider giving this bike some heavy-duty lighting for the nighttime sections. That's one thing the riders really appreciate at this event. And keep in mind, this is almost an entirely off-road event, not track. That should be the focus of whatever we put together.

I'm up for the 300, I would like to see the GPR stabilizer on it with the dampening adjuster by the left grip. My first mod input.

Being new to this biuld a bike over the internet, would someone explane the "rules" to me? Like, do we use someones bike or do we get a new bike? how do we pay for said mods? ect...

One other thing I'd like to say, Lets not go for a lot of "Bling". Lets keep it simple and to the point of reliability and necessity. I don't care if my brake fluid covers are orange or gold, or if my oil filler plug is colored. But I do care that I have radiator braces or a quick change axel. OK, inputs 2 & 3.

One other work - JAFODR

The last bike build some people requested the yz250 with a up graded big bore kit. Jimmy just happen to have the yz laying about collecting dust in the corner so thats how that ugly got picked last time.Dirtrider picked up the tab for the bling every one threw at it.
Now for this build jimmy well have a bike or we ask ktm shops to sponsor said bike. I dont think we'll get dirtrider to buy a 2007 300 EXC-W just for the build but if we can get the parts donated from the after market businesses. They get free advertising so we have to blow a lot of sun shine up their a holes to get that done jimmys good at blowing sun shine so we need to tell him who to sun burn to get the parts in time. As for Bike we have several votes for the 300 so we can look in to that so if thats what were using well have a complete list of parts for jimmy.

I may have jumped the gun starting the bike build (I'm like that taking the lead)so jimmys behind in posting the rules or may be its Pete's job to deal with us and the build.

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Edited 9/11/2006 12:28 pm by XXSUPERHEROXX (XXSUPERHEROX)

Edited 9/11/2006 12:29 pm by XXSUPERHEROXX (XXSUPERHEROX)

Hey, I'm glad someone took up the ball and started to run. With my scedule and the Army, I don't think I could give it the time needed to coordinate everything.

Something for all to think about - Different is good (a saying I like). Maybe we aught to keep in mind some other bikes. GasGas make a nice 300 and the new Husky's got a good review. When it comes right down to it, I really don't care what bike we put together (even a Hodaka would be cool with me, brutal, but cool) but I think we need to stand out with our choice. Hey, that new Apriali is different! (shameless plug)

The KTM is an excellent choice, but expected in a way. I'm not trying to change everyones or anyones mind, just want you all to keep it open till everyone has had an input, so to speak.

“The KTM is an excellent choice, but expected” Yes it is but then again it’s a reliable bike thats proven it self in the sport for a very long time. We can expect KTMtalk to have a KTM as well maybe even its bored out 300 from the pervious build. Hopefully their mods well make the bike fail in the later hours of the test. The other bike would be alternatives to KTM but not my idea of the best bike for the task at hand.Then agaon its my bias talking my dream race bikes the KTM 300 EXC-W I been drooling over Bill Gusses 300 for a couple seasons now I desire one badly. So given a chance to build a bike Ill pick that over any thing.

I didn't even think about doing something different like those other bikes.  I don't like the idea of sending a bike that another forum will have there as well.   On the other hand hero it right about it being a dependable bike and well suited for the 24 hr test.

We need more impute on this matter.  Where is everybody else?  Lets get the ball rolling.  Has anybody suggested other sites for the build?  I don't spend enough time on other sites to suggest any of them.

I jumped the gun the post of the build was just posted. I want ( and yes its selfish ) the KTM300EXC-W I picked it last time. I wanted to sway you people in to picking it first this time so KTMtalk would have to pick some other bike model or not compete this time. I was unaware of KTMtalks pick last build tell I read it in Dirtrider and I was pissed off thinking jimmy picked the yz because KTMtalk wanted the 300. well No more inferior brands this time I want the worlds best (yes my bias again ) and that KTM!

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