rg3 or fox suspension

Alex
By the way and I did not think of this till now, I believe YOT used ENZO, Kayaba for there in house suspesion last year so I'm pretty sure you have stock RG-3 Revalve.
Like I say however, very nice legs most can only dream of.  
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Colorado

2006 RM-250

Hey mark, how come my forks look stock tho???? thats my question, someone once told me RG3 is not a fork making company they modifiy stock ones is this correct??? because when i look at other peoples RG3 forks it looks stock too like mine, but it isnt. Why is this, then wen you look at pros bikes there RG3 stuff is all differnt colors and crazy looking.???  
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Alex
By the way and I did not think of this till now, I believe YOT used ENZO, Kayaba for there in house suspesion last year so I'm pretty sure you have stock RG-3 Revalve.
Like I say however, very nice legs most can only dream of.

thats what i was thinking, J-law rode for enzo this is why i am so confused??? i bought the bike off of a pro girl rider called katie mugire, go to Rg3.com and go to riders and you will se here name in the WMA, i think she put here suspention on the bike ya know.    
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Msrk see this bike my forks look exactly the same as this guys. http://www.rg3canada.com/reviews.html this is why i was questioning all these DLC and other things.  
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Like I say I'm pretty sure yours are stock that have been revalved just because of the YOT EnZO link.  The coating can be DLC, titanium nitrate or could be anodized.
The anodized is the least expensive option which give a trick look but does not prevent stiction like the DLC and TI Nitrate.
RG-3 is a suspension tuning company they revalve, rebuild and respring suspension, a fairly new product is the Diamond Kit which is stock suspension with DLC, revalve, and anodized springs.
The A kit is actually a Showa product which PC, RG-3 and others sell but do not produce.  This is done to meet the production rules for the lites/250 team riders.  When RG-3 sells an A Kit they will valve it to meet the needs of the customer.
RG-3 also developes and sells some suspension hard parts most notably is the triple clamps, valves and linkgage arms.  
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Colorado

2006 RM-250

I was reading around and in the back of my ind i remembered hearing about ohlins and how great the rear shock and the fork cartridges were. Are they any good in comparison to an RG3 Diamond Kit? Suspension kits are all very expensive, so what is the best of those two. I am also still considering fox when they come out with they're fork cartridges. Im confused because noone will say what is better between those three. I do appreciate you guys feedback on this thread so far though. Iy has been helpful but i want to know more about ohlins and fox.  

MS198:
I was reading around and in the back of my ind i remembered hearing about ohlins and how great the rear shock and the fork cartridges were. Are they any good in comparison to an RG3 Diamond Kit? Suspension kits are all very expensive, so what is the best of those two. I am also still considering fox when they come out with they're fork cartridges. Im confused because noone will say what is better between those three. I do appreciate you guys feedback on this thread so far though. Iy has been helpful but i want to know more about ohlins and fox.

Most of us don't have the money to appreciate 7000-10000 or more dollar suspension upgrades.
Which is the best depends on how much you have to spend.  The Showa A kit is as good as a non factory rider can get.
The Ohlins is very good suspension and depending on your pocket book can be as good the A kit.

As far as the next level:  RG-3 has the Diamond Kit, Race Tech has the DLC2 coating and relave, Factory Connection has Titanium Nitrate and Revalve just to name a few...all are going to cost you 2000 plus to start with.  

You can revalve the suspension for a few hundred without coating,
get the internals anodized for a couple hunderd.
You can get external tank system for forks.

Most stock suspension is pretty good
You really need to know what kind of riding you are going to be doing, if there is a local suspension tuner (most times I would rather go there than send it off)  
What do you like and not like about the stock suspension?

All these are good suspension tuners and many more as well, one may be better for you than for me and vise versa.
Pick your budget, see if there is a good tuner close to you if not we can give you at least 20 companies to call.  Call them and find out which you feel will do the best for your budget.

Even an A kit can be bad if not set up correctly.  
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Colorado

2006 RM-250

haha, im sorry, i think you are all getting the impression that i am loaded, but im really not, this will be a big investment for me. I definately will not be getting an a kit but i think i will either a diamond kit or ohlins fork cartridges and an ohlins shock.i don't like the stiffness of my stock suspension, and even with all of the dials and stuff it never seems to make a difference in the ride feel. If i put everything on the softest setting i can i can sort of feel a difference but it bottoms out on everythig. if i got the ohlins stuff, would it be good enough that they would not need a DLC coating, or would that be a god upgrade to them? And can u buy RG3 smart valves and put them on ohlins fork cartridges. i dont know much about suspension internals so i have to ask for help alot. Sorry im asking so many questions, but if you were going to buy something this expensive, wouldn't u? thanks again for ur help.  

I just wanted you to know what kind of money you are looking at spending.  Suspension can get very expensive in short order.

Here is the hardest question for most people to answer about suspension:
What do you like and not like about the stock suspension, (to make a re-valve worth it you need to really think about this take notes of braking, how it settles in turns, feels during acceleration, goes through rough sections, take off and lands from big and small jumps.)  This will also help you dial it in when you get it back.

If you can answer that you may be able to dial in the suspension you have here's some basic tips you can try in addition to just going hard or soft on the compression:
If the suspension seems to hard and going soft doesn't work try going stiffer on the compression, you may be riding to low in the stroke and going soft will make it worse in this case.  If that doesn't work try lowering the fork oil by 5 cc and going back to base settings adjust from there.  Rebound can cause the suspension to feel firm as well.  
If the suspension feels soft try adding 5 cc of fluid.
Check the pinch bolts on the triple clamps for correct torque it they are to tight the suspension will bind up.  
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Colorado

2006 RM-250

Read through these articles on suspension adjustment and setting the sag:  http://www.tootechracing.com/Home%202nd.htm  before you drop the money,  after all you are talking about spending at least 2500 this will help you get the most out of it.

Is this for the new CR 450 your looking at and you are willing to spend the money get the Ohlins and DLC coating.  
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Colorado

2006 RM-250

yes this is for the crf450r i am planning on getting. Im really picky about my suspension so what i think i will do is either get ohlins fork cartridges and the ohlins shock, or get a diamond kit from RG3 and a fox podium Rc3. This is just where i am going to start. It is going to be a big investment but i would think it will be worth it.  

honestly you might just need a revalve it can do wonders for you. the stock suspension has to meet a broad group of people. you just need to personalize it.  
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We just had some factory pros from New Zealand come over this summer and they had RG3 suspensions on they're bikes and could not find anyone to service them in our area.  We tore them down for them and set them up with our own valving and shim stack set up and those guys could not beleive that a shop that was not a big name suspension company could do what we did.  These guys raced nationally and consistantly ran in the top 15.  They are currently trying to secure a franchise from us to set up in New Zealand so that should say something.  We offer national caliber set ups if you mant to spend the money or just as good if not better set up than the big guys at better prices and we will stand behind them.  I don't know your specifics but if you want to feel free to call me and I will answer any questions you have and try to point you in the right direction even if you don't use us and by the way we are also authorized Ohlins service center so we can hook you up in that direction also.  I wish you luck and like I said feel free to call as a little more info from you will go a long way in pointing you in the right direction.

Eric
www.fcrsuspension.com
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