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Can a 125 2-stroke be set-up for a 220 lb rider?

 
galaxychild galaxychild
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Posted: 06/03/09
08:34 AM

Can a 125 2-stroke be set-up for a 220 lb rider?

I am getting back into MX and want to ease my way back in on a smaller, more controllable bike but I'm fat.  

 
DLHamblin DLHamblin
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Posted: 06/03/09
08:53 AM

galaxychild:
Can a 125 2-stroke be set-up for a 220 lb rider?

I am getting back into MX and want to ease my way back in on a smaller, more controllable bike but I'm fat.


Yes, (stiffer springs and possibly a revalve would be needed).  The general target weight a stock 125 is aimed at is in the 165 lb range, so without modifying it would likely be too soft.

Also, it would pull you around OK but would not be spectacular performance. Have you considered a 250 2-stroke?  
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Dave H 2006 YZ250
(2008 YZ 125 son)

 
galaxychild galaxychild
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Posted: 06/03/09
09:12 AM

I have been looking at 250 4-strokes as an option. I am looking for the initial low cost and if a stiffer spring and revalve would be required and would likely have lower performance, I may be better off at the 250 level.

I do like the powerband of the 4-stroke 250 (WR and YZ) but rode a KTM XC360 2-stroke and felt that I would be way overpowered. I was told that it may be the same on 1 250 2-stroke.  

 
DLHamblin DLHamblin
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Posted: 06/03/09
09:43 AM

galaxychild:
I have been looking at 250 4-strokes as an option. I am looking for the initial low cost and if a stiffer spring and revalve would be required and would likely have lower performance, I may be better off at the 250 level.

I do like the powerband of the 4-stroke 250 (WR and YZ) but rode a KTM XC360 2-stroke and felt that I would be way overpowered. I was told that it may be the same on 1 250 2-stroke.


True, the 4-stroke 250 is closer to the 125 in peak power but has wider (broader) power spread and would be easier to learn on than the 250 2-stroke.  
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Dave H 2006 YZ250
(2008 YZ 125 son)

 
RIDE-RED RIDE-RED
Guru | Posts: 1000 | Joined: 05/09
Posted: 06/03/09
11:09 AM

A 250 4st is comparable to a 125 2st. The suspension is set up for the same weight range and the power is about the same. If a 125 2st won't work for you neither will a 250 4st.  

 
MJP68 MJP68
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Posted: 06/03/09
11:33 AM

galaxychild:
Can a 125 2-stroke be set-up for a 220 lb rider?

I am getting back into MX and want to ease my way back in on a smaller, more controllable bike but I'm fat.


If Jimmy Lewis can do it so can you!

FAT GUY ON A 125  
MJP68
Autismspeaks.org
Gilbert AZ
06yz144,05yz85,02yz85

 
hellamic hellamic
Addict | Posts: 3778 | Joined: 01/09
Posted: 06/03/09
12:11 PM

heres a pic of MJP getting ready for our track day and he RIDES A 125..... if that helps.
 
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MIKE
Phoenix, az
(07 yz250)
(99 yz125)


Every bush has its day (sanders, 2009)
Lack of enthusiasm is for the weak and timid. (alex, a.k.a. yz250 forever) hellamic

"I know much about nothing at all"(Maple, 2009)

 
MJP68 MJP68
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Posted: 06/03/09
01:21 PM

OUCH!!!  
MJP68
Autismspeaks.org
Gilbert AZ
06yz144,05yz85,02yz85

 
hellamic hellamic
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Posted: 06/03/09
01:26 PM

what? did you pull something?.....lol  
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MIKE
Phoenix, az
(07 yz250)
(99 yz125)


Every bush has its day (sanders, 2009)
Lack of enthusiasm is for the weak and timid. (alex, a.k.a. yz250 forever) hellamic

"I know much about nothing at all"(Maple, 2009)

 
MJP68 MJP68
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Posted: 06/03/09
01:32 PM

spandex shorts blew out..  
MJP68
Autismspeaks.org
Gilbert AZ
06yz144,05yz85,02yz85

 
galaxychild galaxychild
New User | Posts: 5 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 06/04/09
06:50 AM

The article on the exhibition racer is inspiring but the picture of MJR isn't quite where I have settled yet. There is time still for me to catch up to him, though. And, I'm more of a black spandex guy. The neon's don't look good on me.

All fun aside, are there stiffer rear springs for most bikes or can the stock spring be set for the extra weight. I read something recently about setting "Sag height." For the front forks, that seems to be something that would require a shop to handle. Any thoughts on cost to reset a 125 for the "fat guy?"

43 years old, 6'0" and 220 lb. but still have some life left on me.  

 
whoisjohnlamb whoisjohnlamb
Enthusiast | Posts: 553 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 06/04/09
06:58 AM

i think you wont be impressed with the power your going to get from a 125. that being said, maybe you should buy one, learn on it and sell it or trade up. i wouldn't bother with the suspension mods. heck i weigh slightly shy of 145 and i'm moving up to a 250.  
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Hammer'n down since 1994
`05 yz125
`98 yz125
`98 yz250
`75 xl75
whoisjohnlamb

 
Allen_D Allen_D
Guru | Posts: 773 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 06/04/09
07:01 AM

I'm 210lb and I'm not too fond of 125s.  A 125 will move you around alright in your back yard, but once you get into sand or hills the engine will be heavily taxed.  
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2001 KTM 520MXC

 
whoisjohnlamb whoisjohnlamb
Enthusiast | Posts: 553 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 06/04/09
07:06 AM

tell that to my 260lbs. brother! god its hilarious to watch try to ride my yz125 in the sanDd!  
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Hammer'n down since 1994
`05 yz125
`98 yz125
`98 yz250
`75 xl75
whoisjohnlamb

 
92rm125 92rm125
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Posted: 06/04/09
07:20 AM

In answer to your question:

Can a 125 2-stroke be set-up for a 220 lb rider?
Yes.

Now...
SHOULD it be set-up for a 220lb rider?
NO. lol  
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- 1991 RM125

 
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